Ain't Feminism Just A Ball?
Mar. 27th, 2008 12:11 amWow, internet debates. It's been a while. Now I consider myself a feminist despite the mis-definition and poor reputation the word has achieved in the public eye, so please view all my arguments through that framework - I defend reason, not sexism!
Nicky linked me to this (warning DO NOT CLICK if you're not in an appropriate mood to see the word rape bandied about willy-nilly and, you know, that particular brand of feminist rhetoric) and I thought it deserved a little more analysis than "wow, what a nutbag" so I replied, and tried to be polite and accommodating and all that. Nobody wants to talk to you if you're criticising them without finding ANYTHING worthwhile in their arguments. In fact I was just reading a study the other day confirming what we all already know - that it's easier to affirm someone's opinion in their minds by arguing with them than by agreeing with them.
I'm trusting that she is not, in fact, a nutbag, but merely someone with a certain political viewpoint that naturally leads to the sort of assumptions she's making. She appears to be an active member of no less than three separateminorities (I meant oppressed groups, women obviously aren't a minority *facepalm*), implying that she's gone through the usual xenophobic gauntlet which naturally isn't going to inspire a willingness to compromise. I guess we'll see if she deletes my comments or not, as far as I'm concerned that's the benchmark. Anyway, just in case my optimistic view turns out to be incorrect, and also because more discussion is always better, I'm posting my response here. It's currently screened so the copy-paste is for early commenters too. If you feel like having a rousing feminist spar (or want to join Nicky in bemused laughter, but PLEASE DO NOT FLAME ANYONE), then head on over to that post and then read my comment and, you know, be insightful!
The Post.
( My reply backed-up here )
Go for it! And do not, I REPEAT, DO NOT FLAME ANYONE AT ALL. I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR TRAFFIC, GUYS, PLEASE MOCK PRIVATELY. Or at least subtly, if you must.
Nicky linked me to this (warning DO NOT CLICK if you're not in an appropriate mood to see the word rape bandied about willy-nilly and, you know, that particular brand of feminist rhetoric) and I thought it deserved a little more analysis than "wow, what a nutbag" so I replied, and tried to be polite and accommodating and all that. Nobody wants to talk to you if you're criticising them without finding ANYTHING worthwhile in their arguments. In fact I was just reading a study the other day confirming what we all already know - that it's easier to affirm someone's opinion in their minds by arguing with them than by agreeing with them.
I'm trusting that she is not, in fact, a nutbag, but merely someone with a certain political viewpoint that naturally leads to the sort of assumptions she's making. She appears to be an active member of no less than three separate
The Post.
( My reply backed-up here )
Go for it! And do not, I REPEAT, DO NOT FLAME ANYONE AT ALL. I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR TRAFFIC, GUYS, PLEASE MOCK PRIVATELY. Or at least subtly, if you must.
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