![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
bliumchikForgot to say, I went to the Queer Collective BBQ on Friday, followed by Wolverine watching with my high school mates. So gratuitous sausage jokes followed by... gratuitous motorcycle jokes. For the practically negative amount of actual dicks in my life it sure contains a hell of a lot of dick jokes. Nonspoilery Wolverine reaction: GAMBIIIIIT. Jackman needs to work on his roar, but not his muscles because EEP. Overall better than X-men, especially the last one *shudder*
Anyway, I started to comment on![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
bexless's entry about moar spoilery aspects of the movie and got all tl;dr - lucky you, y'all get to read it instead, with bonus tl! It goes from the squee-worthy to the interesting meta to the lulz and then one or two problematic bits.
I loved so many bits of this movie that I couldn't list them all here - Gambit's card tricks, Gambit's attitude, Deadpool's attitude, (and his swords), Kayla's revenge on Stryker, baby!scott's "did I get them??", Gambit's hair, Wolverine's anti-helicopter tricks, actually pretty much ever action sequence in it was awesome, Gambit's... okay, GAMBIT, you guys! Emma Frost: Human Shield, and the HILARIOUS bathroom-wreckage scene near the beginning.
On the Fridge Thing as relates to this movie: I actually had a positive reaction to Kayla's death as a plot device, I think because unlike most fridgings it was actually a complex piece of narrative which in part sent up your standard issue woman in refridgerator complex by having the standard version be fake, and the real version be wiped from his memory, so that her actual death can be viewed on her own merits rather than as a convenient motivator for Wolverine. And those merits are pretty good - she has her dying revenge thing, she's got that agency, and her two deaths make a decent structural link that contributes to both the story and the cohesion of the movie on a metatextual level, with the pulse-checking repetition and all.
Basically what I'm saying is, while they could have done more, overall this is what supporting-character-death is SUPPOSED to be like, this is what all the truly outrage-worthy fridgings were a poor imitation of. If we didn't have that history of the pointless female love interest murder epidemic, this would actually be totally awesome as a tragic plot device. As it is, it is unfortunate in echoing that history and it doesn't really give you the room to take the fake-fridging as a proper score against the real fridging phenomenon, instead merely using the fridging history to set up a plot twist - they're aware enough of its existence to know the "death" will fit into a pattern and thus go unquestioned for long enough to get to the twist, but not aware/pissed enough about its implications to make a comment on the phenomenon itself - that or they just wanted to focus on the action.
Which was, as I said before, AWESOME. Some bits were pretty unintentionall funny though - Deadpool's weirdly symmetrical slow spirally decapitatey demolition derby among them. PHYSICS, YOU GUYS. PHYYYYSIIIICS. Also, apparently Wolverine's A Lumberjack And That's Okay! And the wolverine story from Kayla had all of us going HAAAAY FORESHADOWING HAAAAAY. Also what was up with the bone claws!? What the hell? That was very odd. Oh and can I say that Sabretooth's version of a run-up is nothing short of hilarious.
Problems: I don't know where cowboy-hat guy (oh, John Wraith apparently, did anybody ever say that name in the movie? Did I just miss it?) came from, but I called his death right at the start when I realised that duh, the only teleport in the world is Nightcrawler!! I agree withbexless, if X-Men movies did not already exist this movie would have been much better. Wraith's death reflected that inevitability, too - it had that little touch of "um, why" to it. Okay, it was a COOL way to take out a teleport, albeit a weakness that was apparently edited out of Deadpool's DNA (how did they- whooole nother story there), but :( it was a shitty death. I mean, not as shitty as lightbulb guy, who apparently died for verisimilitude, but then lightbulb guy also got a really kickass trailer full of lightbulbs. That was totally awesome. Wraith? He was The Blob's personal trainer. SERIOUSLY. Also is it just me or did Sabretooth imply that The Blob died as well? Off-screen? It's almost as if all Wolverine's ex-black-ops-buddies get shitty absent-minded deaths to explain their absence in X-Men. Oh, wait.
Okay, no, Zero's death was cool. I gotta admit that one. That was pretty awesome on both parts. But that just leads me into my final sad: Deadpooool! Whyyy! He was so awesome and witty! And yes, that did make the moment when you realise they took his mouth very poignant (although kind of logically wonky - why the hell did they do that? He's brainwashed anyway! How do they feed him!!!) but Deadpool was one of the more likeable ex-baddies. I would have loved it if he and Silver Wraith had teamed up in future, you know, if they'd both SURVIVED - it would appeal to the same part of me that giggled at Booster Gold and the Blue Beetle in I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League. (...now THERE'S a movie...) but back to my point. The point is they didn't need to do that to Deadpool at all. They made up the Weapon XI thing out of whole cloth, they could have made up a character to go with it! They made up John Wraith, after all. I'm pretty sure I've never heard of a telepot with a cowboy hat in Marvel's comic universe, although please correct me if I'm wrong. Actually I feel like I probably am wrong because if they'd made him up they surely would not have dressed him like that, right? right? oh my god, I loled so hard at that outfit.
In conclusion, GAMBIT.
Anyway, I started to comment on
bexless's entry about moar spoilery aspects of the movie and got all tl;dr - lucky you, y'all get to read it instead, with bonus tl! It goes from the squee-worthy to the interesting meta to the lulz and then one or two problematic bits.I loved so many bits of this movie that I couldn't list them all here - Gambit's card tricks, Gambit's attitude, Deadpool's attitude, (and his swords), Kayla's revenge on Stryker, baby!scott's "did I get them??", Gambit's hair, Wolverine's anti-helicopter tricks, actually pretty much ever action sequence in it was awesome, Gambit's... okay, GAMBIT, you guys! Emma Frost: Human Shield, and the HILARIOUS bathroom-wreckage scene near the beginning.
On the Fridge Thing as relates to this movie: I actually had a positive reaction to Kayla's death as a plot device, I think because unlike most fridgings it was actually a complex piece of narrative which in part sent up your standard issue woman in refridgerator complex by having the standard version be fake, and the real version be wiped from his memory, so that her actual death can be viewed on her own merits rather than as a convenient motivator for Wolverine. And those merits are pretty good - she has her dying revenge thing, she's got that agency, and her two deaths make a decent structural link that contributes to both the story and the cohesion of the movie on a metatextual level, with the pulse-checking repetition and all.
Basically what I'm saying is, while they could have done more, overall this is what supporting-character-death is SUPPOSED to be like, this is what all the truly outrage-worthy fridgings were a poor imitation of. If we didn't have that history of the pointless female love interest murder epidemic, this would actually be totally awesome as a tragic plot device. As it is, it is unfortunate in echoing that history and it doesn't really give you the room to take the fake-fridging as a proper score against the real fridging phenomenon, instead merely using the fridging history to set up a plot twist - they're aware enough of its existence to know the "death" will fit into a pattern and thus go unquestioned for long enough to get to the twist, but not aware/pissed enough about its implications to make a comment on the phenomenon itself - that or they just wanted to focus on the action.
Which was, as I said before, AWESOME. Some bits were pretty unintentionall funny though - Deadpool's weirdly symmetrical slow spirally decapitatey demolition derby among them. PHYSICS, YOU GUYS. PHYYYYSIIIICS. Also, apparently Wolverine's A Lumberjack And That's Okay! And the wolverine story from Kayla had all of us going HAAAAY FORESHADOWING HAAAAAY. Also what was up with the bone claws!? What the hell? That was very odd. Oh and can I say that Sabretooth's version of a run-up is nothing short of hilarious.
Problems: I don't know where cowboy-hat guy (oh, John Wraith apparently, did anybody ever say that name in the movie? Did I just miss it?) came from, but I called his death right at the start when I realised that duh, the only teleport in the world is Nightcrawler!! I agree with
bexless, if X-Men movies did not already exist this movie would have been much better. Wraith's death reflected that inevitability, too - it had that little touch of "um, why" to it. Okay, it was a COOL way to take out a teleport, albeit a weakness that was apparently edited out of Deadpool's DNA (how did they- whooole nother story there), but :( it was a shitty death. I mean, not as shitty as lightbulb guy, who apparently died for verisimilitude, but then lightbulb guy also got a really kickass trailer full of lightbulbs. That was totally awesome. Wraith? He was The Blob's personal trainer. SERIOUSLY. Also is it just me or did Sabretooth imply that The Blob died as well? Off-screen? It's almost as if all Wolverine's ex-black-ops-buddies get shitty absent-minded deaths to explain their absence in X-Men. Oh, wait.Okay, no, Zero's death was cool. I gotta admit that one. That was pretty awesome on both parts. But that just leads me into my final sad: Deadpooool! Whyyy! He was so awesome and witty! And yes, that did make the moment when you realise they took his mouth very poignant (although kind of logically wonky - why the hell did they do that? He's brainwashed anyway! How do they feed him!!!) but Deadpool was one of the more likeable ex-baddies. I would have loved it if he and Silver Wraith had teamed up in future, you know, if they'd both SURVIVED - it would appeal to the same part of me that giggled at Booster Gold and the Blue Beetle in I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League. (...now THERE'S a movie...) but back to my point. The point is they didn't need to do that to Deadpool at all. They made up the Weapon XI thing out of whole cloth, they could have made up a character to go with it! They made up John Wraith, after all. I'm pretty sure I've never heard of a telepot with a cowboy hat in Marvel's comic universe, although please correct me if I'm wrong. Actually I feel like I probably am wrong because if they'd made him up they surely would not have dressed him like that, right? right? oh my god, I loled so hard at that outfit.
In conclusion, GAMBIT.
